Does God share His glory with us?

God has said, “I will not give My glory to another.” This scripture is taken by many and twisted out of its context to make many other scriptures a lie.

I recently saw the following quote which prompted my writing of this blog:

“Now get this clear: the vessel never becomes the liquid, nor the liquid the vessel. I add this because we humans are so proud that there creeps into us the idea that we can be deified. That is blasphemy. There is no such thing as self-deification, except that of Satan, the pseudo-God, and what we share with him. The divine can dwell in the human, but forever the human is the human and the divine the divine. God has said, “I will not give My glory to another.” That is the vital importance of the vessel illustration: we are forever the container; He is that which we contain. That relationship never changes.+ Norman Grubb – The Key to Everything

Moses’ face shone so bright with the glory of God that he had to wear a veil [Ex 34:29-34]. God seems to be happy to share his glory with Moses. Then we have John 17:22 The glory that you have given me I have given to them. Jesus (God) giving His glory to us.

What is the verse quoted above? Is 48:11. But what is the context? From verse 1 God is talking about the things he did. Then he says in verse 5 I declared them to you from of old,
before they came to pass I announced them to you,
lest you should say, ‘My idol did them,
my carved image and my metal image commanded them.’

So here the contrast is between saying God did it or my idol did it.

Clearly the idol is the ‘another’ God will not give his glory to.

Then we have Is 42:8
I am the Lord; that is my name;
my glory I give to no other,
nor my praise to carved idols.

Again clearly talking about giving his glory to idols.

Now consider Is 60:2
For behold, darkness shall cover the earth,
and thick darkness the peoples;
but the Lord will arise upon you,
and his glory will be seen upon you.

God’s glory will be seen upon us – maybe it’s just lent to us and not given?

Another scripture to consider is Rom 8:16-17 The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be GLORIFIED with him.

Now let’s consider if we remain mere human. John 1:12 those who believe are given the right to become sons of God, NOT born of flesh but of Spirit. 2 Cor 5:17 we are a new species that had never existed before – so by definition not human since that is a species that HAS existed.

And not mere container separate from the content – 1 Cor 6:17 But he who is joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him.

So we are in Christ – 2 Cor 5:17 again calls us IN Christ – so He is the container and we are the contained, yet Col 1:27 To them God chose to make known how great among the Gentiles are the riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.

So He is in us, we’re in Him and we’ve so joined with him that the two can never be separated.

And yet again, we have Christ in US our hope of glory – clearly the glory of God being given to us – unless we claim that the Christ in us has first been stripped of His glory!!!


2 Cor 3:18 And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit.

Here Paul is remembering Moses’ face shining with the glory of God. It comes from the Lord, so God is doing this – transforming us into the image of the glory of God in an increasing way.

I am NOT forever a container – I am forever a son of God.


39 Responses to “Does God share His glory with us?”

  1. Jelly Says:

    thank you. It encourages me to read this bcz I too know of many instances when only pieces of Scripture is used in someone’s explanation/devo/testimony so long as it “fits” his/her thought. …could be Pride, could be ignorance, or lack of good teaching… Well, most of this (life) is sanctification, really. …and since “be ye Holy, for I am Holy” simply cannot be accommplished on our own, we who have accepted Christ as our Lord and personal Savior to live & dwell in our hearts, must rely on the Holy Spirit (Comforter) that Jesus left us with upon his return to Heaven, right? I’m just saying. Thank you for the Scripture references in your blog – GREATLY appreciated brother. -j

    • jeremypenwarden Says:

      Nice comment and your encouragement appreciated.

      Sanctification, if you do a study, is almost always spoken of in the past tense ie something already done and by God, or the blood or the word, not by us.

      For example Heb 2:11-12
      For he who sanctifies and those who are sanctified all have one origin. That is why he is not ashamed to call them brothers,

      This is the scripture that puts sanctification as an ongoing process, but it is clear that is is 100% God’s work.

  2. James T Says:

    I recently had this discussion with another person. I must say up-front that your dismissal of Isaiah 42:8 as “clearly talking about idols” is not so clear when we look at the passage in some parallel versions.

    “I am Jehovah, that is my name; and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.”

    I would argue that clearly this verse is addressing two things, glory and praise.

    That said, I think what we are facing here is a symantecal issue. All of your verse examples are of God glorifing man or showing His glory through man — not of him *sharing* His glory with man.

    There is a subtle but distinct difference. When we share something, a part of what was ours is often lost. Even if we think of sharing life experience, we must give up a portion of our independence and sole decision making authority to the person we are sharing with (otherwise we really are not sharing, we are just draggin them along).

    So I must respectfully submit that God does not, in fact, “share” His glory. But He certainly does allow His children to experience His glory.

    • neil Says:

      I very much agree James T.

      The term ‘glory’ is used in different ways and while God allows us to share His glory of ‘holiness’ in that we are persecuted for it, He does not share His glory – His value/honor/praise/worship/position/etc….

      • Jeremy Penwarden Says:

        Try reading the bible and getting your theology from there. If you wish to dispute my bible exegesis, you need to use the bible to prove your point.

    • kay Says:

      God cannot share his glory with anyone

      • Jeremy Penwarden Says:

        Well, John 17:32 Jesus said in prayer to the Father ‘The glory which you [Father] have given to me, I have given to them [the disciples] so that they may be one…’

        Oops – seems nobody told Jesus that God cannot share his glory with anyone.

  3. jeremypenwarden Says:

    James T.
    I approved your comment only because I do not wish to censor your opinions.
    John 17:22, one of my verse examples, specifically says GIVE his glory to us. neither God glorifing man or showing His glory through man — not of him *sharing* His glory with man.

    So I will respectfully submit that God has not only shared it with us but fully GIVEN it – John 17:5 – the same glory that Jesus had before the world was made.

    I trust you will rethink your opinion.

  4. Benjamin Says:

    I believe a good analogy between God’s Glory and the glory shared with us is my (earthly) father’s DNA and my own. If you were to run blood tests on both of us you would find that we share simular DNA traits that would conect us of being of the same blood but you would also find a distinction between the two. Although shared, my fathers DNA is distinctly his and mine my own. As to our heavenly Father, His is of whorship and praise, ours is of His santification and resrurection through His Son.

    Jesus claimed the exact Glory (DNA) of the Father. Jesus is to be whorshiped, not us.

    God bless all those who are in Him.

    • jeremypenwarden Says:

      Benjamin, I believe that could be a good analogy there but not about how God’s glory is displayed in New Covenant. Today His glory is best displayed when we do the works of the Kingdom, healing the sick and casting out devils etc. When Jesus did that the people glorified God.

  5. Becky Says:

    I just have a question. Could this passage in any way mean that I sometimes steal “glory or “praise” from God when I don’t give Him the credit for what He has done/is doing in my life? God has dealt with me recently about the issue of pride in my life and the verse in Isaiah continues to come to mind. Thank you for your reply.

    • jeremypenwarden Says:

      I find that God is much more interested in speaking truth to us. Truth of who He has made us. The devil is quite happy to ‘convict’ you of your weaknesses, like pride. What feels to us like God dealing with us, is often the devil tricking us. When we know how tremendous the Spirit within us is and how His power is given to us freely, then pride disappears like darkness does when light is shone, or dew when the sun comes out.

      I think Jesus is much more concerned about us doing the works he did, loving people and helping them, that about counting up who gets ‘glory’. Frankly, He has quite enough glory and is not panicking about whether his kids get some praise too.

      What parent complains when their kid it brought out in front of the school to be given the glory of a prize for achievement? Does the parent jump up and demand to be given the credit for their kids success? No. The parent delights to see their kids receive honour and glory and God delights to see us receiving glory too.

    • jeremypenwarden Says:

      I should say God is a proud parent excited to see us doing well, not some spoilt brat always wanting to take the credit for everything.

      • Becky Says:

        Jeremy, thank you for the insight. I have never thought of it that way. :0) My journey away from legalism and into grace is bringing joy and smiles around every corner. Thank you so much .
        I do wonder many times, however,… how does God get the glory when I let my light shine and men see my good works. Seems to me that we are so prone (even as christians) to pat each other on the back and not acknowledge it was God who gave us the ability to preform the task ? Maybe I’m just being too analytical. Besides as you say… God has plenty of glory ! I think your answer does help me to once again consider the Father/child relationship. What a sweet and precious illustration. Thanks Jeremy.

      • jeremypenwarden Says:

        Thing is, God gives us his power, but it is up to us how we use it. When someone does well, it is fair enough to say ‘good job’. We should encourage each other and at the same time remember who it is that made us who we are.

        On my YouTube channel – jeremypenwarden – you will find some videos by Steve Thompson which will inspire you if you are walking away from law.

        Many blessings and I am really glad we have met, even if only in this unreal world of online.
        From England.

  6. Earl Showalter Says:

    Jeremy,Jesus was the visible manifestation of the invisible God and we are the visible manifestation now of the invisible God.Let your light so shine before men that they will Glorify God in heaven.Hope that helps.

  7. Earl Showalter Says:

    Appreciate your insight as I will be teaching on this 5/7 at my church.Some pretty awesome stuff.We have this treasure in earthen vessels,praise God!!!

  8. Earl Showalter Says:

    Sorry Jeremy I see it was Becky had the ? about good works.Jesus said it was the Father in me who doeth the works but certainly it was Jesus who was visible doing it but revealing the invisible God who men couldn,t see.The same way we Live,Move and have our being in him.WE work yet not us but the Grace of God in us giving expression of the Glory of the invisible God.

  9. juliaford Says:

    Thank you very helpful. Won’t bother you with the week I had, but woke up with”arise shine”in my spirit,which I ignored,thinking it me.Then via my devotions and google somehow got here, God is awesome.Going to meditate on those veses. Thanks again Jeremy.

  10. Iwuala Chibueze Says:

    This is good writeup keep it and God bless you.

  11. Bessie Says:

    As I began to grow in the knowledge of the
    Lord Jesus, my name was called out from the pulpit thanking me for something that had been done. I ask the Pastor privately, please don’t call my name out for praise from the pulpit again. If you appreciate what I do just say thank you privately. You see The Lord is the doer in my life and he gets the credit and praise for it. An older member cut the grass one day and was complaining,no one helped me. I asked” who is the doer in your life? If it is you I will thank you and pat you on the back. On the other hand if it is Christ in you then I am going to say “praise The Lord.” and give HIM the. Credit . Gal 2:20 NOT I BUT CHRIST……….. Who is the doer in your life.


  12. Apostle Steve Adonai Says:

    Scriptural analysis motivated by the Holy Spirit always leave us relieved, refreshed and released into our great benefits in Christ Jesus. Hallelujah!

  13. Christopher Adikaesieme Says:

    I ran into this write up while searching for a particular bible verse. This Issue of God sharing glory is or has become a snare to Ministers and very dangerous to their flocks. frankly I feel there are certain deep mesages that should be divided into cretche, nursery, elementary, then graduating to the upper levels. These days I see too many men of God idolise themselves and encourage their flocks to do same. To the extent of many claiming to be above sin in totaly wrong way.

    • Jeremy Penwarden Says:

      Very good point Christopher. However, just because the truth is open to abuse doesn’t mean we should believe a safer falsehood.

  14. phirewhorx Says:

    WOW! i bless the name of God for the gathering of His people treasure in earthen vessels. This is totally awesome. Thanks so much for the post and all the comments.

    I must add, we must deviate from using the wisdom of men alone to explain the things of the spirit, thats why people get God’s revelations wrongly and do not understand God’s word even when it is written clearly in the scriptures. When God said … “…my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols.”, it is clear in the one statement the context. The focus is clearly idols, if you check the chapter before Isaiah 41:21 down to 29, just before Isaiah 42, the Lord said, “Present your case…”. there was clear a misconception between the people’s idea of God and idol. in 28 – 29 of the same chapter, it was proven that no one among the gods to give counsel, no one to give answers when asked, and it proves that they are all false and their deeds amount to nothing; and their images are but wind and confusion.

    Clearly God meant idol here and there is the explanation from the start.
    God bless you so much for this wonderful message. I will share it because God’s word are always fresh.

  15. Speaklife1 Says:

    Reblogged this on Speaking Life Today.

  16. Trey Says:

    Thrilled to find this post, 4 years later. God shares everything with his Princes and Princesses. When we are granted the ability to share His love with others, we are certainly granted a share of His glory in doing so. Does not the Bride share in the full glory of the Groom?

    When you listen to a praise song, realize that you are being praised to the extent that God has worked through you and in you in the fullness of His Spirit. A song like Good, Good Father is not just talking about God, it is talking about you as you are also a good, good father ministering His love to your children as He does to you.

    You are a member of the Royal Family. All share in the praise and glory of the King, forever and ever. Amen

  17. T. Makara Says:

    I believe luke17:10 is a good one to study! To God be the glory!
    Also Rom11:33

  18. Kenneth Causey Says:

    Perhaps one point some may not be considering is: at the point of salvation, we are indwelt with the Holy Spirit. So it is not “us” per se that have the glory of God, but God Himself, retains His glory as He takes up residency in our lives. Remember Gal. 2:20 “I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.” I want to focus on the portion of this verse that says, “it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me.” So whatever glory that we have as Christians, is not intrinsically ours, but it is God’s own glory that is on display in our lives as we yield to the Power of the Holy Spirit..

  19. Pius Nnamdi Says:

    Eph. 1:18, The eye of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints. Am glad to have seen this.

  20. Kingsley Says:

    Thanks so I due enjoy the teaching

  21. Carlos Salamanca Says:

    Jesus, in John 17, when praying the Father, for those who believe in the Son, clearly says, that the glory the Father has given him, he shares with his believers.

  22. Essie Bolyard Says:

    This is very satisfactorily written. The article was informative to elocutionists who have a great value for articles. We look forward for even more of the very same. He has described each and every little thing very nicely and briefly.

  23. Arrey Tanyi Says:

    O! This is awesome. Thanks a lot.

  24. Esther Says:

    Good explanation. Praise the Lord

  25. Andy Stanforth Says:

    I am currently undergoing treatment for a cancer on my spine. So far I have had an eight hour operation to remove some of it as it was causing chord compression and I had lost the use of my legs and my bowel control. My next treatment involves radiotherapy.
    The longer term risk is that it returns as as myeloma throughout my bone marrow. This is causing me a bit of questioning about where my faith rests.
    The general view being that we should trust that God is behind whatever other treatments are suggested. However, there is such a lot of conflicting medical and pseudo medical advice out there that it becomes tricky. In fact it looks as if much of it is about faith in the treatment and other positive thinking techniques than about hard medical facts. I am therefore grappling with what I actually do in terms of chemotherapy and diets. Not giving glory to other gods is one of the scriptures that the Lord has brought to mind and I am considering how it impacts both on my thinking and on the decisions I take. Your piece was very useful in pulling together other scriptures that backed up the case for making sure that glory goes to our Lord and not to other systems. How this will eventually look I do not know, but hopefully the Spirit will guide me.

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